Sunday, February 18, 2007

Underarm weaving question...

I on the verge of finishing a Child's Yoke Sweater from Knitting Around. I had originally set out to make a Wonderful Wallabyfor a baby shower gift, but didn't have quite enough yarn for the hood and pouch. I punted and decided to convert my sweater into a fair isle EZ affair. I am so glad I did, it was simple and I am hoping that my recipient's mother will like it. This sweater is doubly gratifying as I have been able to complete it out of some long since discontinued Cascade 220 from my stash.
I have a question, however, regarding the weaving of the underarm stitches. Have any of you ever kitchener stitched the underarm stitches, or do you weave them in (per EZ's advice). Or are these two things the same thing and I'm not comprehending that? Let me know, thanks!


  • I have always thought that Weaving and Kitchener stitch are the same thing.

    I once did the underarms with the knitting together and cast-off method but I don't recommend it -- too tight.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:02 AM  

  • i have always just grafted the live stitches for all of my underarms. i do not know if this is the proper way to address them, but it seems to have worked fine on all the sweaters i have made. and oddly enough, love grafting. go figure. by the way, pretty sweater.

    By Blogger mames, at 11:04 AM  

  • The sweater I posted here on the 15th was the first time I used the kitchener stitch. It was phenominal how it worked. I used the directions from knitty.com which was suggested by another knitter whom posted here. They were easy to follow http://www.knitty.com/issuesummer04/FEATtheresasum04.html

    By Blogger Rose, at 11:42 AM  

  • Kitchener is another word for 3 needle bind off.
    Grafting is another word for weaving.
    1 is the english way of saying it.The other american.Hope this helps.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:45 AM  

  • Yes, beautiful sweater. The new mother can't help but love it!
    It is sure to be an heirloom ;-)

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:47 AM  

  • Thanks all! I really appreciate your help...

    By Blogger The_Add_Knitter, at 12:23 PM  

  • I believe that EZ uses grafting and kitchener interchangeably. See "Knitting Without Tears." The index cross references grafting,kitchener and weaving and all lead you to one set of directions. Kitchener is definitely not the same as the 3 needle bind off.

    Good luck finishing this adorable sweater!

    By Anonymous kathy in juneau, at 12:31 PM  

  • Three needle bind off is definitely not the same as kitchener/weaving/grafting.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:58 PM  

  • Grafting-weaving-Kitchener all mean the same thing. Essentially it's sewing that looks like a row of knitting.

    EZ explains weaving by having you lay all the stitches flat (off the waste wool or needles) and sewing into them from bottom or top. Most other explanations will have the stitches still on needles and explain by sewing into them knit-wise or purl-wise.

    I must say I've had significantly more luck with EZ's method of taking everything off the needles, but I suppose if your knitting is very tight that may cause problems.

    Very cute sweater!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 2:14 PM  

  • My favorite instructions for Kitchener/grafting are at knittinghelp.com - they have a fabulous video.

    By Blogger Sarah / Blue Garter, at 10:22 PM  

  • I guess you've got enough help on the underarms. My question is:

    Is the neck loose/large enough to go over a baby's head? Babies have very large heads in proportion to their bodies, and I know Fair Isle knitting tends to be firmer than plain knitting.

    If it is too tight, can you cut a steek along the shoulder line, and fasten it with buttons?

    Good Luck!

    By Blogger Moorecat, at 3:08 AM  

  • Hi! I just found this site, and I just have to contribute to the discussion re EZ's directions for the "Kitchener" stitch. EZ used all three terms, "weaving", "grafting", "Kitchener stitch" interchangeably. Her instructions (as found in "KWT", pp. 29 & 30) were also specific for (l) Stocking stitch (stockinette), and (2) Garter Stitch fabric. I have been cruising the Web looking for instuctions (illustrated or not) on how to do the Kitchener graft. After 25 years of knitting, I still pull out "KWT" when I do the Kitchener. EZ's directions are STILL the clearest and most explicit, without illustrations. By the way, her instructions in "KWT" for Kitchener grafting were with the fabric STILL ON THE KNITTING NEEDLES.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:46 AM  

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